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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14   #21
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I couldn't bring myself to grind out this title until after the hfff nerf. And even only playing a hour or two a day, I'm already up to 600k faction. I think it's the best thing they could have done. Now, no matter how you go at it, you can rake in at least 10k an hour.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21   #22
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I got Dual savior before nerf thank goodness.
And Tbh I did hfff for the money. Running 3 accounts was great 15k/25 runs. (including selling amber to merch)
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Now we get to Vanquish or redo missions for faction. Could they have not implemented that and left HFFF alone?
So why are you bitching about faction then?
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21   #23
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QQ corner is that way.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #24
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How about you shut up? Seriously, I for one am against redoing books, vanquishes and such for titles and benefits from those titles even more, but (H)FFF was even dumber than that. You should have to earn your shit by doing something, not clicking flags and finishing the quest every minute.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27   #25
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Now you are rewarded for playing GW, not minesweeper as already pointed out, its a good thing.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57   #26
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wasn't anets goal to make kurzick easier? seems with removing HFF maxing kurz will now just be longer..
I hurd maths wus gud.

You can gain points at over twice the rate of HFFF now with nominally more difficult (but greatly more fun) gameplay.

And if you VQ or do Urgoz or do HM books, for example, this comes with chance for rares, IDs, chests, etc. Far greater than HFFF in pretty much every distinguishable category.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57   #27
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Wow, lazy much?

How dare anet require you to actually play the game. They are evil and must be stopped.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58   #28
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I actually move back and forth in the Amatz Basin Mission I have 2 differnt shouts I use I can usually get all three groups with the 2 shouts, as well as heal and defence. And I've seen diferent people dieduring it. Whether the speeders or the sins death interferes with faction gathering. So compared to clicking flags with no chance of death, I''d says it is several stages up of interactive then the point and click method.


@Nightow: that was funny, good dig. Minesweaper FTW.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #29
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QQ moar pl0x

I'm actually happy that JQ/FA is alive again. Since AB seems to be ridden with morons and hfff was just plain boring...I have a chance to max kurz without flagging heros over and over again @.@.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 07:07 PM // 19:07   #30
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Now you are rewarded for perma sin tanking or spamming charge, not minesweeper as already pointed out, its a good thing.
Fixed it for you, honestly people here keep saying now you have to now have to "play the game". The new faction farm is slightly more playing the game as the hff, is just as playing the game as the old 4 sin team FFF. Plus faction output is noticeably larger than the 40 minutes to complete 25 hff, and if you hit the daily best, it a nice bonus.
The main complaint is that to get this large faction gain, you must play with people, which reading this board with the myriad of "I want 7 heroes now" posts, isn't what a lot of people want to do.



To reply to OP, Hff used an exploit and was easily bottable. Anet sucks at correctly figuring out if someone is botting. Rather than finding better bot detection methods (like having a GM pm the person to make sure he is actually playing) or fixing the heroes not spawning mobs exploit, they removed it completely. It will probably never return to the game. Personally when I fill like grinding my luxon titles, I h/h vanquish. I suggest you find a nice solo activity to gain faction again, one must always evolve.
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Old Nov 28, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11   #31
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i'm too bad to play hm...
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